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Author: | Vaaish [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Thinking about Knights.... |
I've been thinking about putting together a knight force for a while, mostly because I like the little guys, but also because AMTL is a bit one dimensional and boring to play and really has no place to go without a massive overhaul of some core concepts. I think that Knights would help scratch the big stompy robots itch while still being fun to play. I put together a bit of a list but I'm not sure what would be best to spend the remainder of the points on. I kind of think the AA emplacements sound good and could garrison which is nice, but I also like the idea of having a howitzer detachment. However, I'm leaning toward 2x tbolts because I think that would provide the best AA overall. My plan is to use the crusaders and two paladin detachments as fire support while the lancers and errants do most of the killing. Code: Incompertus, 3000 POINTS Knight World (NetEA v2.2.2 *APPROVED*) ================================================== KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [505] 5 Knight Paladin, Seneschal KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [555] Seneschal, 5 Knight Errant KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [590] 4 Knight Paladin, Baron LANCER HOUSEHOLD [325] 3 Knight Lancer, Seneschal LANCER HOUSEHOLD [325] 3 Knight Lancer, Seneschal CUSTODIAN HOUSEHOLD [400] 3 Knight Crusader, Seneschal ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150] 6 Rough Riders THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150] 2 Thunderbolt Fighters Any thoughts on this? |
Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
In the games I've played 3-Knight formations break way too easily. Except for Custodians, I always field formations of at least 4 Knights. I like the idea of having non-Knight formations, especially howitzers and AA in emplacements, but I've have better success fielding just Knights and Thunderbolts. |
Author: | Vaaish [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
So drop the paladins to 4's and up the lancers to 4's and take tbolts? |
Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
That's what I would do. |
Author: | Mard [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
My opinion is that your Activation count is a bit low as well, makes you open to crossfire and you being engaged instead of the other way around. The list I just took to a local tourney here in Aus was : Incompertus, 2995 POINTS Knight World (NetEA v2.2.2 *APPROVED*) ================================================== KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [530] Baron, 3 Knight Errant KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [455] 4 Knight Errant, Seneschal KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [330] 3 Knight Errant KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [330] 3 Knight Errant CUSTODIAN HOUSEHOLD [375] 3 Knight Crusader CUSTODIAN HOUSEHOLD [375] 3 Knight Crusader ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150] 6 Rough Riders ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [150] 6 Rough Riders THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150] 2 Thunderbolt Fighters THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150] 2 Thunderbolt Fighters |
Author: | Vaaish [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
Mard, did you find that the seneschels weren't that useful on your formations and did the three unit formations break too easily on you? |
Author: | mordoten [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
This is a list i would run. The BTS guards the blitz/backfield together with one of the AA-formations. Garrison both lancers far up the board. Then assault, assault, assault! Incompertus, 2965 POINTS Knight World (NetEA v2.2.2 *APPROVED*) ================================================== KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [500] 3 Knight Paladin, Baron KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [455] 4 Knight Errant, Seneschal KNIGHT HOUSEHOLD [455] 4 Knight Errant, Seneschal THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150] 2 Thunderbolt Fighters THUNDERBOLT SQUADRON [150] 2 Thunderbolt Fighters AA GUN BATTERY [125] 3 AA Guns, 3 Gun Transporters AA GUN BATTERY [125] 3 AA Guns, 3 Gun Transporters LANCER HOUSEHOLD [415] 4 Knight Lancer, Seneschal LANCER HOUSEHOLD [415] 4 Knight Lancer, Seneschal ROUGH RIDER PLATOON [175] 6 Rough Riders, Aspirant |
Author: | Vaaish [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
How do you garrison the lancers? They are WE and well over the speed limit for garrisoned formations. |
Author: | mordoten [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
They are scouts, no? |
Author: | Dave [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
Ya, more than half of the formation is scouts. |
Author: | Vaaish [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
Ah, I missed that Lancers had scout. That's pretty cool then. |
Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
Here's the list I used for the most recent NEAT and went 3-0 with it: 3000 pts: Knight Household 530 3 Errants + Baron Knight Household 415 4 Paladins + Seneschal Knight Household 455 4 Errants + Seneschal Knight Household 4 Lancers + Senschal 415 Custodian Household 375 2 Crusaders, 1 Castellan Warden Household 360 3 w/AA + Multilasers 1 w/Wanquisher T'bolts 150 T'bolts 150 T'bolts 150 |
Author: | Vaaish [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
I'm noticing you guys have a lot of AA in these lists, do you face a lot of air in your games? For me I don't know that I'd need more than two tbolts tops. Quote: 1 w/Wanquisher Are you going Slaanesh with this and do I really want to know what variant of knight this is? |
Author: | Apocolocyntosis [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
Vaaish wrote: I'm noticing you guys have a lot of AA in these lists, do you face a lot of air in your games? For me I don't know that I'd need more than two tbolts tops. The AA provides cheap activations as well as AA in a list that tends to build to a lower activation count. AA battery is the cheapest activation in the list, Tbolts are cheap and generally useful. |
Author: | Dave [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Thinking about Knights.... |
Heavy air is pretty common in the New England circle. The Coach is the only one who seems not to bother with air or AA. |
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