Packs are less flexible in other ways, so it's not such a big problem with them.

You can surpress on Titan in a Pack, and killing one breaks the Pack. 'Ya can't do that to lone Hounds.

Additionally, you'll still have a mixed weapon loadout like the Standard Configuration titan, just spread across two hulls.

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However, like I said, if people will promise to take a lot of twin-fit Warhounds without the 25pt surcharge and prove that they're not as powerful as I think they are, I'll consider changing it.

But I'd like to hear about some battle tests first.

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I think thta E&C summed it up quite well. A specialist warhound either single or as a pair makes IMHO an improvement to the power of the titan.

I'll try and get some test games in next month with single fitout at no extra cost.

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Perhaps instead of just dropping the 25 point surcharge, just limit it to lone warhounds.

alternatively it could be solved by simply stating that as scout titans, warhounds are equipped to deal with most targets they find themselves against and must select any two DIFFERENT weapons from the list. That would ensure that two of the same weapon system aren't fielded on a single warhound and eliminate the need for the surcharge.

It does limit options, but with the surcharge, are they options that people take with something like a twin turbolaser single warhound weighing in at 350 points?

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I'd take twin mega-bolters & twin plasma guns.

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Many people have already built their Titans.

There was enough outcry when I asked people to proxy their Missile Launcher Warhounds as Inferno Guns...

...imagine what'd happen if we asked them to cut their painted models apart.  

It does limit options, but with the surcharge, are they options that people take with something like a twin turbolaser single warhound weighing in at 350 points?

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Vaaish: i like the wording there, 'different' would ensure no twin load-outs and keep the warhound fluffy.

However, I find the image of a lone warhound loaded out with 2 plasma blastgums or 2 vulcan megabolters really cool.

D.

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I won't argue that a Warhound with 2 VMBs or 2 TLDs can be nasty.

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I think that's a fine "counts as" option.

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I definitively agree.
And I'm ok with the +25pts for twin weaponery.

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I just noticed something strange about the Rapier and Mole Mortar : they have disappeared!

I can't find any stats for the Rapier and the Mole Mortar has lost its datasheet in 3.13b... It used to be there in v3.13 but now the Mortar's stats can only be found in the summary sheet.

Please help!  

I seem to have accidentally deleted it.

It'll be back for 3.14.

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Fine.

Will their stats change at all? And is the AM's Rapier the same as the Baran Siegemasters' Rapier?

I don't think so ; Yes.

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Thanks for the quick reply, E&C.  

I disliked the 1D6 as it was too random to be a reliable weapon.

The Laser Burner has no 15cm shooting attacks. Wouldn't something giving you that many extra attacks in FF give you a few shooting attacks as well?

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