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AMTL v3.09
Tiny-Tim
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:23 pm 
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Let us not forget that Legion is based on the Horus Heresy and things changed after that.

I believe that infantry should be included, in a limited capacity, in the list.

With regard to Legates, I feel that a tournament list needs to contain a Legate and so we need to decide if we are going to force players to use a Warlord or not in a competetive list, rather than is it fluffy or not.

I'm tempted to say keep the Legate only on a Warlord.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:01 am 
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I would also argue for a limited number of infantry. The limited reference to infantry in the fluff can be considered similar to the limited references to infantry in medieval documents: they were just not considered sufficiently important to mention which does not mean that they did not exist.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:44 pm 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Apr. 19 2008,14:22)
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What do people think of allowing the Legate (Supreme Commander) on the Reaver Titan?

I'm all for it.  I don't think a player should be forced to take a Warlord simply to have a Supreme Commander. If you limit the Legate to Warlords, then the price for him becomes ~900 points , instead of 100.

As for the presence of infantry, I'm for it, and not just to boost the number of activations.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:15 pm 
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Infantry:  There should be infantry available, even if it's modest.  Historically, one of the biggest weaknesses of the titans has been infantry.  The SM2 background on the CMLs wasn't for AA but for protection from infantry in confined environments.  I think it is "vital" to the list for realism, activation count, and possibly for overall balance.  Even if it comes out of the 1/3 "allies" contingent, there should be some infantry available.

Legate:  I think a Reaver Legate could be justified based on some sort of "revered machine" basis, but I'm not sure it should be available for a particular army list.  If it was Legio Victorum with the venerable reavers that fought heroically in the Heresy, I'd say sure.  I'm not sure about Legio Gryphonicus in particular or a list intended to be the generic TL list.  I would lean towards Warlord-only for any of the "newer" legions.

Imperator:  Playtest it and see.  My concern is that it's virtually unkillable anything less than ~4000 points, making BTS and at least one objective-based goal impossible for the enemy to achieve.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:09 pm 
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(nealhunt @ Apr. 21 2008,16:15)
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Imperator: ?Playtest it and see. ?My concern is that it's virtually unkillable anything less than ~4000 points, making BTS and at least one objective-based goal impossible for the enemy to achieve.

The same proble could be said for the Necron harvester engines and tyranids.

Skimming Living metal WEs are hard to bring down with a CC focused army.

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