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Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons

 Post subject: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:33 am 
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Updated for most recent version of the formula (V0.46)
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[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: _________ 9 ____ 0 ___ -41
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 52 ____ 0 ___ +27
Chaos Tail [L]: _________ 15 ___ +8 ___ -10
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 55 ____ 0 ___ -30
Doom Burner [R,L]: ______ 83 ____ 0 ___ +18
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 52 __ +18 ____ +2
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 52 __ +20 ____ +2
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 90 ____ 0 ___ +40
Hellblade [H]: __________ 23 ____ 0 ____ -2
Hellblade [R]: __________ 23 ___ +7 ____ -2
Hellblade [L]: __________ 23 __ +12 ____ -2
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 56 ____ 0 __ ?? not listed
Khorne Tail [L]: ________ 12 ___ +4 ___ -38

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:51 am 
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Seems I missed a few last time. Here is the list with entries for all six (A through F) cost plans.

[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Values for Plan: _______ A __ B ___ C __ D ___ E __ F
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: ________ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25
Chaos Tail [L]: _________ 10 _ 10 __ 10 _ 10 __ 45 _ 45
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20
Doom Burner [R,L]: _____ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 80 _ 50
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 80 _ 50
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 65 _ 65 __ 30 _ 30 __ 65 _ 30
Hellblade [H]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 80 _ 80
Hellblade [R]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 75 _ 75
Hellblade [L]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 70 _ 70
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40
Khorne Tail [L]: ________ 10 __ 5 __ 10 __ 5 __ 30 _ 25

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:05 am 
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Adjusted the CAF values by removing the "Model Type" value.

[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Values for Plan: _______ A __ B ___ C __ D ___ E __ F
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: ________ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5 __ 15 __ 5
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25 __ 25 _ 25
Chaos Tail [L]: _________ 10 _ 10 __ 10 _ 10 ___ 5 __ 5
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20 __ 80 _ 20
Doom Burner [R,L]: _____ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30 _ 120 _ 30
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15 __ 45 _ 15
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 65 _ 65 __ 30 _ 30 __ 65 _ 30
Hellblade [H]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 20 _ 20
Hellblade [R]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15
Hellblade [L]: __________ 15 _ 15 __ 15 _ 15 __ 10 _ 10
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40 __ 80 _ 40
Khorne Tail [L]: ________ 10 __ 5 __ 10 __ 5 __ 10 __ 5

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:16 am 
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Updated for tweak2.

[H] = Warhound, [R] = Reaver, [L] = Warlord
_ Chaos Titan weapons:
Battle Head [L]: _________ 7
Chaos Energy Whip [L]: __ 38
Chaos Tail [L]: __________ 7
Death Storm [H,R,L]: ____ 40
Doom Burner [R,L]: ______ 60
Doomfist [R]: ___________ 26
Doomfist [L]: ___________ 24
Havok Missile Rack [L]: _ 48
Hellblade [H]: __________ 20
Hellblade [R]: __________ 13
Hellblade [L]: __________ 10
Hellstrike Cannon [L]: __ 60
Khorne Tail [L]: _________ 7


Edit: updated Tail values

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:31 am 
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Hi!

Chaos tail has a value of "-2", is this correct? Or should it be "zero"?

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:00 am 
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Ooh, good catch. Actually, both the Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail values are wrong. It appears I forgot to again remove the model type value when I updated the basic formula for those two.

The correct value for Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail is 7.

I just had a thought that I should work out the values for the Chaos Titan weapons for the Titan having a Fire Control Center or a Command Head. I'll look into that at a later time.

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MagnusIlluminus wrote:
Ooh, good catch. Actually, both the Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail values are wrong. It appears I forgot to again remove the model type value when I updated the basic formula for those two.

The correct value for Chaos Tail and Khorne Tail is 7.

I just had a thought that I should work out the values for the Chaos Titan weapons for the Titan having a Fire Control Center or a Command Head. I'll look into that at a later time.


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I'm going over everything in preparation for constructing the gold pdf file, so I will post in the appropriate thread anything I have a question about.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 1:17 am 
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OP updated.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
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OP updated for V0.33

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
PostPosted: Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:00 am 
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I just noticed a thing. I'm looking at the Chaos Titan Hit Locations for converting them to the new hit locations cost system and I've noticed that all of the Warlord - based named Titans still have Reactor locations in their Front arc. Weren't these going to be changed, as the Imperial ones were? Or were these intentionally left this way?

I suppose leaving them this way might be reasonable, especially since they will soon (I expect) be able to gain Rewards and Mutations to help them survive.

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MagnusIlluminus wrote:
I just noticed a thing. I'm looking at the Chaos Titan Hit Locations for converting them to the new hit locations cost system and I've noticed that all of the Warlord - based named Titans still have Reactor locations in their Front arc. Weren't these going to be changed, as the Imperial ones were? Or were these intentionally left this way?

I suppose leaving them this way might be reasonable, especially since they will soon (I expect) be able to gain Rewards and Mutations to help them survive.


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That is an omission on my part. Base calculations on not having the reactor in the front arc.

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 Post subject: Re: Points formula values for Chaos Titan weapons
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OP updated for V0.41

Chaos Titan Weapons had been valued as Special Formation.

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