Expanded Special and Support formations:

__ Special Formations:

_Formation Name _____ Contents _______ BP _ Morale _ VP _ Cost
_ Adeptus Mechanicus:
Foot _____ 2 AM stands ___________________ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 75
Bike _____ 2 AM Bike stands ______________ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 93
Horse ____ 2 AM Horse stands _____________ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 81
Speeder __ 2 AM Speeders _________________ 2 _ - _ 1 _ 119
Chimera __ 2 AM stands, Command Chimera __ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 86
Chimedon _ 2 AM stands, Command Chimedon _ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 95
Chimerax _ 2 AM stands, Command Chimerax _ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 87
Chimerro _ 2 AM stands, Command Chimerro _ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 89
Rhino ____ 2 AM stands, Command Rhino ____ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 85
Gorgon ___ 2 AM stands, Command Gorgon ___ 2 _ - _ 2 _ 158
Valkyrie _ 2 AM stands, Command Valkyrie _ 2 _ - _ 2 _ 197
Termite __ 2 AM stands, Command Termite __ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 86

_ Adeptus Psyker:
Foot _____ AP stand ___________________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 29
Bike _____ AP Bike stand ______________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 36
Horse ____ AP Horse stand _____________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 32
Speeder __ AP Speeder _________________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 48
Chimera __ AP stand, Command Chimera __ stand _ - _ 1 __ 43
Chimedon _ AP stand, Command Chimedon _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 42
Chimerax _ AP stand, Command Chimerax _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 39
Chimerro _ AP stand, Command Chimerro _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 40
Rhino ____ AP stand, Command Rhino ____ stand _ - _ 1 __ 43
Gorgon ___ AP stand, Command Gorgon ___ stand _ - _ 1 __ 70
Valkyrie _ AP stand, Command Valkyrie _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 73
Termite __ AP stand, Command Termite __ stand _ - _ 1 __ 39

_ Astropath:
Foot _____ Astropath stand ___________________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 37
Bike _____ Astropath Bike stand ______________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 43
Horse ____ Astropath Horse stand _____________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 39
Speeder __ Astropath Speeder _________________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 55
Chimera __ Astropath stand, Command Chimera __ stand _ - _ 1 __ 51
Chimedon _ Astropath stand, Command Chimedon _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 49
Chimerax _ Astropath stand, Command Chimerax _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 47
Chimerro _ Astropath stand, Command Chimerro _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 48
Rhino ____ Astropath stand, Command Rhino ____ stand _ - _ 1 __ 51
Gorgon ___ Astropath stand, Command Gorgon ___ stand _ - _ 1 __ 78
Valkyrie _ Astropath stand, Command Valkyrie _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 80
Termite __ Astropath stand, Command Termite __ stand _ - _ 1 __ 47

_ Confessor:
Foot _____ Cf stand ___________________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 83
Bike _____ Cf Bike stand ______________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 98
Horse ____ Cf Horse stand _____________ stand _ - _ 1 __ 88
Speeder __ Cf Speeder _________________ stand _ - _ 1 _ 113
Chimera __ Cf stand, Command Chimera __ stand _ - _ 1 __ 96
Chimedon _ Cf stand, Command Chimedon _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 95
Chimerax _ Cf stand, Command Chimerax _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 93
Chimerro _ Cf stand, Command Chimerro _ stand _ - _ 1 __ 93
Rhino ____ Cf stand, Command Rhino ____ stand _ - _ 1 __ 96
Gorgon ___ Cf stand, Command Gorgon ___ stand _ - _ 1 _ 123
Valkyrie _ Cf stand, Command Valkyrie _ stand _ - _ 1 _ 126
Termite __ Cf stand, Command Termite __ stand _ - _ 1 __ 92

_ Forward Observer:
Foot _____ 2 FO stands ___________________ 2 _ - _ 1 __ 85
Chimera __ 2 FO stands, Stealth Chimera __ 2 _ - _ 1 _ 107
Rhino ____ 2 FO stands, Stealth Rhino ____ 2 _ - _ 1 _ 105

_ Inquisitor:
Foot _____ Inq stand ___________________ stand _ - _ 2 _ 199
Bike _____ Inq Bike stand ______________ stand _ - _ 3 _ 243
Horse ____ Inq Horse stand _____________ stand _ - _ 2 _ 214
Speeder __ Inq Speeder _________________ stand _ - _ 3 _ 290
Chimera __ Inq stand, Command Chimera __ stand _ - _ 2 _ 213
Chimedon _ Inq stand, Command Chimedon _ stand _ - _ 2 _ 211
Chimerax _ Inq stand, Command Chimerax _ stand _ - _ 2 _ 209
Chimerro _ Inq stand, Command Chimerro _ stand _ - _ 2 _ 210
Rhino ____ Inq stand, Command Rhino ____ stand _ - _ 2 _ 212
Gorgon ___ Inq stand, Command Gorgon ___ stand _ - _ 2 _ 240
Valkyrie _ Inq stand, Command Valkyrie _ stand _ - _ 2 _ 243
Termite __ Inq stand, Command Termite __ stand _ - _ 2 _ 209

_ Ordo-Malleus Inqstr:
Foot _____ OMI stand ___________________ stand _ - _ 1 _ 137
Bike _____ OMI Bike stand ______________ stand _ - _ 2 _ 181
Horse ____ OMI Horse stand _____________ stand _ - _ 2 _ 152
Speeder __ OMI Speeder _________________ stand _ - _ 2 _ 228
Chimera __ OMI stand, Command Chimera __ stand _ - _ 2 _ 151
Chimedon _ OMI stand, Command Chimedon _ stand _ - _ 1 _ 149
Chimerax _ OMI stand, Command Chimerax _ stand _ - _ 1 _ 147
Chimerro _ OMI stand, Command Chimerro _ stand _ - _ 1 _ 148
Rhino ____ OMI stand, Command Rhino ____ stand _ - _ 2 _ 150
Gorgon ___ OMI stand, Command Gorgon ___ stand _ - _ 2 _ 178
Valkyrie _ OMI stand, Command Valkyrie _ stand _ - _ 2 _ 181
Termite __ OMI stand, Command Termite __ stand _ - _ 1 _ 147

_ Battilion Command:
Foot _____ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands _____________ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 56
Bike _____ Major on Bike, 5 Imperial Bike _____________ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 88
Horse ____ Major on Horse, 5 Rough Rider ______________ Major _ 3 _ 1 _ 100
Speeder __ Major in Speeder, 5 Land Speeders __________ Major _ 3 _ 1 _ 122
Chimera __ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimera __ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 73
Chimedon _ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimedon _ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 80
Chimerax _ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerax _ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 76
Chimerro _ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerro _ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 77
Rhino ____ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Rhino ____ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 72
Gorgon ___ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, Gorgon _____ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 78
Valkyrie _ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Valkyrie _ Major _ 3 _ 1 _ 119
Termite __ Major stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Termite __ Major _ 3 _ 1 __ 73

_ Regimental Command:
Foot _____ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands _____________ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 __ 93
Bike _____ Colonel on Bike, 5 Imperial Bike _____________ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 133
Horse ____ Colonel on Horse, 5 Rough Rider ______________ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 143
Speeder __ Colonel in Speeder, 5 Land Speeders __________ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 173
Chimera __ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimera __ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 113
Chimedon _ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimedon _ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 120
Chimerax _ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerax _ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 115
Chimerro _ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerro _ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 117
Rhino ____ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Rhino ____ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 111
Gorgon ___ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, Gorgon _____ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 117
Valkyrie _ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Valkyrie _ Colonel _ 2 _ 2 _ 162
Termite __ Colonel stand, 5 Tactical stands, 3 Termite __ Colonel _ 2 _ 1 _ 112


_ Support Formations
_Formation Name _____ Contents _______ BP _ Morale _ VP _ Cost

_Assault Squad:
Foot (ASF) _____ 5 Assault stands _____________ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 62
Chimera (ASC) __ 5 Assault stands, 3 Chimera __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 92
Chimedon (ASD) _ 5 Assault stands, 3 Chimedon _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 _ 107
Chimerax (ASX) _ 5 Assault stands, 3 Chimerax _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 97
Chimerro (ASO) _ 5 Assault stands, 3 Chimerro _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 _ 100
Rhino (ASR) ____ 5 Assault stands, 3 Rhino ____ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 92
Gorgon (ASG) ___ 5 Assault stands, Gorgon _____ 3 _ 4 _ 1 _ 106
Valkyrie (ASV) _ 5 Assault stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 4 _ 4 _ 2 _ 209
Termite (AST) __ 5 Assault stands, 3 Termite __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 92
Mole (ASM) _____ 5 Assault stands, Mole _______ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 90

_ Assault Platoon:
Foot (APF) _____ 6 Assault stands ______________ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 61
Chimera (APC) __ 6 Assault stands, 3 Chimera ___ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 113
Chimedon (APD) _ 6 Assault stands, 3 Chimedon __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 130
Chimerax (APX) _ 6 Assault stands, 3 Chimerax __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 118
Chimerro (APO) _ 6 Assault stands, 3 Chimerro __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 122
Rhino (APR) ____ 6 Assault stands, 3 Rhino _____ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 112
Gorgon (APG) ___ 6 Assault stands, Gorgon ______ 4 _ 4 _ 1 _ 127
Valkyrie (APV) _ 6 Assault stands, 3 Valkyrie __ 5 _ 4 _ 2 _ 243
Termite (APT) __ 6 Assault stands, 3 Termite ___ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 112
Mole (APM) _____ 6 Assault stands, Mole ________ 4 _ 4 _ 1 _ 108

_ Beastmen:
Foot (BF) _____ 10 Beastmen stands _____________ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 104
Chimera (BC) __ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Chimera __ 8 _ 4 _ 2 _ 182
Chimedon (BD) _ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Chimedon _ 8 _ 4 _ 2 _ 209
Chimerax (BX) _ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Chimerax _ 8 _ 4 _ 2 _ 191
Chimerro (BO) _ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Chimerro _ 8 _ 4 _ 2 _ 196
Rhino (BR) ____ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Rhino ____ 8 _ 4 _ 2 _ 175
Gorgon (BG) ___ 10 Beastmen stands, 2 Gorgon ___ 6 _ 4 _ 2 _ 204
Valkyrie (BV) _ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Valkyrie _ 8 _ 4 _ 4 _ 390
Termite (BT) __ 10 Beastmen stands, 5 Termite __ 8 _ 4 _ 2 _ 153
Mole (BM) _____ 10 Beastmen stands, Mole _______ 6 _ 4 _ 1 _ 149

_ Engineer:
Foot (EF) _____ 5 Engineer stands _____________ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 51
Chimera (EC) __ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Chimera __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 83
Chimedon (ED) _ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Chimedon _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 98
Chimerax (EX) _ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Chimerax _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 88
Chimerro (EO) _ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Chimerro _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 91
Rhino (ER) ____ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Rhino ____ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 83
Gorgon (EG) ___ 5 Engineer stands, Gorgon _____ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 93
Valkyrie (EV) _ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 4 _ 4 _ 2 _ 200
Termite (ET) __ 5 Engineer stands, 3 Termite __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 83
Mole (EM) _____ 5 Engineer stands, Mole _______ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 76

_ Heavy Squad:
Foot (HSF) _____ 5 Heavy stands _____________ 3 _ 4 _ 2 __ 54
Chimera (HSC) __ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Chimera __ 4 _ 4 _ 2 __ 85
Chimedon (HSD) _ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Chimedon _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 _ 100
Chimerax (HSX) _ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Chimerax _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 90
Chimerro (HSO) _ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Chimerro _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 93
Rhino (HSR) ____ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Rhino ____ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 85
Gorgon (HSG) ___ 5 Heavy stands, Gorgon _____ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 95
Valkyrie (HSV) _ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 4 _ 4 _ 2 _ 202
Termite (HST) __ 5 Heavy stands, 3 Termite __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 85
Mole (HSM) _____ 5 Heavy stands, Mole _______ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 78

_ Heavy Platoon:
Foot (HPF) _____ 6 Heavy stands _____________ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 53
Chimera (HPC) __ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Chimera __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 104
Chimedon (HPD) _ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Chimedon _ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 121
Chimerax (HPX) _ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Chimerax _ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 109
Chimerro (HPO) _ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Chimerro _ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 113
Rhino (HPR) ____ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Rhino ____ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 103
Gorgon (HPG) ___ 6 Heavy stands, Gorgon _____ 4 _ 4 _ 1 _ 118
Valkyrie (HPV) _ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 5 _ 4 _ 2 _ 234
Termite (HPT) __ 6 Heavy stands, 3 Termite __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 _ 103
Mole (HPM) _____ 6 Heavy stands, Mole _______ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 99

_ Storm Trooper:
Foot (STF) _____ 6 Storm Trooper stands __ 3 _ 3 _ 1 __ 85
Chimera (STC) __ 6 ST stands, 3 Chimera __ 5 _ 3 _ 1 _ 144
Chimedon (STD) _ 6 ST stands, 3 Chimedon _ 5 _ 3 _ 2 _ 162
Chimerax (STX) _ 6 ST stands, 3 Chimerax _ 5 _ 3 _ 2 _ 150
Chimerro (STO) _ 6 ST stands, 3 Chimerro _ 5 _ 3 _ 2 _ 154
Rhino (STR) ____ 6 ST stands, 3 Rhino ____ 5 _ 3 _ 1 _ 143
Gorgon (STG) ___ 6 ST stands, Gorgon _____ 4 _ 3 _ 2 _ 160
Valkyrie (STV) _ 6 ST stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 5 _ 3 _ 3 _ 287
Termite (STT) __ 6 ST stands, 3 Termite __ 5 _ 3 _ 1 _ 143
Mole (STM) _____ 6 ST stands, Mole _______ 4 _ 3 _ 1 _ 139

_ Tactical Legion:
Foot (TLF) _____ 10 Tactical stands _____________ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 40
Chimera (TLC) __ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Chimera __ 8 _ 4 _ 1 _ 118
Chimedon (TLD) _ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Chimedon _ 8 _ 4 _ 1 _ 145
Chimerax (TLX) _ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Chimerax _ 8 _ 4 _ 1 _ 127
Chimerro (TLO) _ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Chimerro _ 8 _ 4 _ 1 _ 133
Rhino (TLR) ____ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Rhino ____ 8 _ 4 _ 1 _ 112
Gorgon (TLG) ___ 10 Tactical stands, 2 Gorgon ___ 6 _ 4 _ 1 _ 141
Valkyrie (TLV) _ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Valkyrie _ 8 _ 4 _ 3 _ 327
Termite (TLT) __ 10 Tactical stands, 5 Termite __ 8 _ 4 _ 1 __ 90
Mole (TLM) _____ 10 Tactical stands, Mole _______ 6 _ 4 _ 1 __ 81

_ Tactical Platoon:
Foot (TPF) _____ 6 Tactical stands _____________ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 26
Chimera (TPC) __ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Chimera __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 74
Chimedon (TPD) _ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Chimedon _ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 91
Chimerax (TPX) _ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerax _ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 79
Chimerro (TPO) _ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerro _ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 83
Rhino (TPR) ____ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Rhino ____ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 73
Gorgon (TPG) ___ 6 Tactical stands, Gorgon _____ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 87
Valkyrie (TPV) _ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 5 _ 4 _ 2 _ 204
Termite (TPT) __ 6 Tactical stands, 3 Termite __ 5 _ 4 _ 1 __ 73
Mole (TPM) _____ 6 Tactical stands, Mole _______ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 68

_ Tactical Squad:
Foot (TSF) _____ 5 Tactical stands _____________ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 27
Chimera (TSC) __ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimera __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 63
Chimedon (TSD) _ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimedon _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 78
Chimerax (TSX) _ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerax _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 68
Chimerro (TSO) _ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Chimerro _ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 71
Rhino (TSR) ____ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Rhino ____ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 62
Gorgon (TSG) ___ 5 Tactical stands, Gorgon _____ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 73
Valkyrie (TSV) _ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Valkyrie _ 4 _ 4 _ 2 _ 180
Termite (TST) __ 5 Tactical stands, 3 Termite __ 4 _ 4 _ 1 __ 62
Mole (TSM) _____ 5 Tactical stands, Mole _______ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 56

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Net Epic Coordinator

Hi!

This looks very good.

Query: Have you decided yet what default options should be in the Gold book and what the optional non-integrated support would like like under the stock gold rules? I would need that format to update gold and release a separate PDf for the optional variant.

Also, I remember you mentioning tweaking some formula costs before I format the points cost of the formula in to a quick reference for gold, the that still pending?

Primarch

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The Primarchload
Magnetized Titans Tutorial
Net Epic Gold
Heresy Rules

At this point I'm assuming that the Gold book should be left as it was, on the thought that "Gold is not being substantially changed, just typos and similar corrections."

The "Expanded formations" presented in the two posts just above would be what should be put into the new pdf presenting new formation options. Also a few more that I almost forgot about. These are all Support formations, mainly Vehicle, with two Flyer and two Super Heavy.

_Formation Name _____ Contents _______ BP _ Morale _ VP _ Cost

Chimera Platoon __ 3 Chimera __ 2 _ 4 _ 1 __ 60
Chimera Legion ___ 5 Chimera __ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 86
Chimedon Platoon _ 3 Chimedon _ 2 _ 4 _ 1 __ 80
Chimedon Legion __ 5 Chimedon _ 3 _ 4 _ 1 _ 116
Chimerax Platoon _ 3 Chimerax _ 2 _ 4 _ 1 __ 66
Chimerax Legion __ 5 Chimerax _ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 96
Chimerro Platoon _ 3 Chimerro _ 2 _ 4 _ 1 __ 70
Chimerro Legion __ 5 Chimerro _ 3 _ 4 _ 1 _ 102
Mole _____________ 1 Mole _ model _ 4 _ 1 __ 76
Rhino Platoon _______ 3 Rhino _ 2 _ 4 _ 1 __ 54
Rhino Legion ________ 5 Rhino _ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 78
Termite Platoon _ 3 Termite ___ 2 _ 4 _ 1 __ 59
Termite Legion __ 5 Termite ___ 3 _ 4 _ 1 __ 85

Valkyrie Platoon _ 3 Valkyrie _ 2 _ 3 _ 2 _ 216
Valkyrie Legion __ 5 Valkyrie _ 3 _ 3 _ 3 _ 320

Gorgon _______ Gorgon _ model _ 4 _ 1 _ 109
Gorgon Platoon _ 2 Gorgon _ 2 _ 4 _ 2 _ 210

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Oh, these values include the tweaks I'm currently working through (as mentioned at the beginning of the first new post above). Thus these values are the most recent ones and *should* be able to be considered "final". Unless play-testing shows any serious problems or I realize any other glaring problems anyway.

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Net Epic Coordinator

Fixed minor error with some Ordo-Malleus Inquisitor expanded formations.

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Updated Gold formations for tweak 3.
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_ Imperial Guard models
Adeptus Mechanicus _________ 34.25
Adeptus Mechanicus on Bike _ 48
Adeptus Mechanicus Horse ___ 42
Adeptus Mechanicus Speeder _ 61
Adeptus Psyker _____________ 29.75
Adeptus Psyker on Bike _____ 38.25
Adeptus Psyker on Horse ____ 34.25
Adeptus Psyker in Speeder __ 50.25
Astropath __________________ 37.5
Astropath on Bike __________ 46
Astropath on Horse _________ 42
Astropath in Speeder _______ 58
Colonel ____________________ 76.25
Colonel on Bike ___________ 107
Colonel on Horse ___________ 93
Colonel in Speeder ________ 137
Commisar: __________________ 46.5
Commisar on Bike: __________ 93
Commisar on Horse: _________ 73
Commisar on Speeder: ______ 129
Confessor __________________ 72.75
Confessor on Bike __________ 97
Confessor on Horse _________ 87
Confessor in Speeder ______ 112
Forward Observer: __________ 47.5
Grey Knights: ______________ 94.85
Inquisitor ________________ 148.65
Inquisitor on Bike ________ 210.9
Inquisitor on Horse _______ 184.9
Inquisitor in Speeder _____ 252.9
Major ______________________ 47.125
Major on Bike ______________ 70
Major on Horse _____________ 59
Major in Speeder ___________ 97
Ordo-Malleus Inquisitor ____ 93.25
Ordo-Malleus Inquisitor B _ 155.5
Ordo-Malleus Inquisitor H _ 129.5
Ordo-Malleus Inquisitor S _ 197.5
Callidus Assassin: _________ 32.75
Vindicare Assassin: ________ 47.75

Sectional HQ (SHQ): _ +10
Company HQ (CHQ): varies
_Tactical CHQ: ______ 25
_Assault CHQ: _______ 42
_Storm Trooper CHQ: _ 40.625
_Imperial Bike CHQ: _ 53.675
_Land Speeder CHQ: __103
_Rough Rider CHQ: ___ 47.75
_Leman Russ CHQ: ____ 89.763
_Predator CHQ: ______ 77
_Vindicator CHQ: ____ 72
_Baneblade CHQ: ____ 228.88
_Shadowsword CHQ: __ 292.08
_Stormblade CHQ: ___ 219
_Storm Hammer CHQ: _ 270.18
_Valkyrie CHQ: _____ 185 [Transport 2: I 1/1 or LA 1/2]
_Vulture CHQ: ______ 201.2
_Chimera, Command: __ 60.125 [Transport 2: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
_Chimera, Cm Scout: _ 80.125 [Transport 2: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
_Rhino, Command: ____ 55.888 [Transport 2: I 1/1 or W 1/2; 1 LA no slots]
_Rhino, Cm Scout: ___ 75.888 [Transport 2: I 1/1 or W 1/2; 1 LA no slots]
_Gorgon, Command: __ 144.7 [Transport 6: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
_Termite, Command: __ 59.5 [Transport 2: I 1/1]

Assault Squad: ________ 17.625
Beastmen Squad: _______ 12.75
Engineer: _____________ 17.5
Heavy Squad: __________ 18.5
Ogryn Squad: __________ 24.2
Ratling Sniper Squad: _ 76.25
Storm Trooper Squad: __ 22.625
Tactical Squad: ________ 8.5

Rough Rider stand: ____ 26.5
Imperial Bike Stand: __ 29.675
Land Speeder Tornado: _ 58
Land Speeder Typhoon: _ 58.5
Land Speeder: _________ 60

Robot: ____ 36
Sentinel: _ 31

Artillery Tractor: _______ 23.013 [Transport 1: LA]
Bridging Vehicle: ________ 33.013
Chimedon: ________________ 47.75 [Transport 2: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
Chimera: _________________ 36.5 [Transport 2: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
Chimerax: ________________ 40.25 [Transport 2: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
Chimerro: ________________ 42.5 [Transport 2: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
Demolisher: ______________ 58
Destroyer Tank-Hunter: ___ 49
Hellhound: _______________ 48.563
Hydra AA Gun: ____________ 81.25
Leman Russ: ______________ 61.013
Leman Russ Conqueror: ____ 62.288
Leman Russ Executioner: __ 71.513
Leman Russ Exterminator: _ 63.038
Leman Russ Vanquisher: ___ 74.513
Mole: ____________________ 84 [Transport Detachment: I]
Predator: ________________ 47.75
Rhino: ___________________ 31.638 [Transport 2: I 1/1 or W 1/2; 1 LA 1/0]
Sabre Tank-Hunter: _______ 32.75
Scorpion AA Gun: _________ 11.5
Termite: _________________ 36.125 [Transport 2: I 1/1]
Thunderer: _______________ 59.75
Vindicator: ______________ 46

Mole Mortar: _ 31.875
Rapier: ______ 13.25
Tarantula: ___ 33.5
Thudd Gun: ___ 28.5

Basilisk: ___________ 179.25
Bombard: ____________ 285.5
Deathstrike Barrage: _ 44.49
Deathstrike Harpoon: _ 28.65
Deathstrike Warp Ms: _ 48.81
Griffon: _____________ 62.75
Manticore: ___________ 71.25
Medusa: ______________ 53.25
Whirlwind: ___________ 49

Lightning Attack: ____ 337.75
Lightning Strike: ____ 214.25
Marauder Bomber: _____ 195.25
Marauder Destroyer: __ 227
Thunderbolt Fighter: _ 241
Valkyrie: ____________ 103 [Transport 2: I 1/1 or LA 1/2]
Vulture: _____________ 119.3

Baneblade: ____ 181.13
Gorgon: _______ 111.4 [Transport 6: I 1/1; 1 LA no slots]
Shadowsword: __ 217.08
Stormblade: ___ 168.7
Storm Hammer: _ 219.68
Stormsword: ___ 179.83

Capitol Imperialis, Behemoth: __ 915.6 [Transport 2xCompany: I,LA,C,V,F,SH]
Capitol Imperialis, Volcano: ___ 969.6 [Transport 2xCompany: I,LA,C,V,F,SH]
Hellbore: ______________________ 538.75 [Transport Company: I]
Imperial Dropship: _____________ 636.45 [Transport 3xCompany: I,LA,C,V,K,SH,ST,BT,MT]
Leviathan Mobile HQ: ___________ 863.65 [Transport Company: I]
AMO Armageddon: ________________ 560.6
AMO Golgotha: __________________ 636.95
AMO Mars: ______________________ 910.85
Warhound: ______________________ 349.5
Reaver: ________________________ 484.75
Warlord: _______________________ 552.25


All Command Rhino replaced with Command Chimera, except with Storm Trooper formations.

_ Imperial Guard Formations

_ Company Formations:
Tactical: ______ 296
Assault: _______ 326
Heavy: _________ 310
Storm Trooper: _ 573
Abhuman: _______ 323

Mechanized Tactical:
_ Chimera __ 396
Mechanized Assault:
_ Chimera __ 499
Gorgon Tactical: _____ 446
Gorgon Assault: ______ 539
Mole: ________________ 439
Hellbore: ____________ 664

Imperial Bike: _ 343
Land Speeder: __ 654
Rough Rider: ___ 496

Leman Russ: _________ 331
Leman Russ Assault: _ 367
Predator: ___________ 267
Vindicator: _________ 255
Baneblade: __________ 471
Shadowsword: ________ 580
Stormblade: _________ 526
Stormhammer: ________ 564

Artillery: ______ 1038
Siege Artillery: _ 671
Rocket: __________ 378

Sky Wolf: __ 756
Airborne: _ 1187

_ Special:
Adeptus Mechanicus ___ 103
Adeptus Psyker ________ 51
Assassin, Calidus: ____ 33
Assassin, Vindicare: __ 48
Astropath _____________ 59
Confessor _____________ 95
Forward Observer _____ 133
Grey Knight: _________ 240
Inquisitor ___________ 188
Ordo-Malleus Inqstr __ 126
Battilion Command _____ 78
Regimental Command ___ 120

Capitol Imprls, Behemoth: _ 1025
Capitol Imprls, Volcano: __ 1086
Imperial Dropship: _________ 642
Leviathan: _________________ 967
AMO Armageddon: ____________ 565
AMO Golgotha: ______________ 642
AMO Mars: __________________ 918
Warhound +2W: ______________ 352
Reaver +3W: ________________ 489
Warlord +4W: _______________ 557

_ Support Formations

Assault ________ 50
Beastmen _______ 63
Engineer _______ 50
Heavy __________ 53
Ogryn __________ 59
Ratling _______ 280
Storm Trooper _ 137
Tactical _______ 43

_ Mechanized:
Airborne _______ 205
Gorgon Assault _ 116
Gorgon Tactical _ 99
Mechanized Assault:
_ Chimera __ 115
Mechanized Heavy:
_ Chimera __ 118
Mechanized Tactical:
_ Chimera ___ 88
Mole ___________ 100
Termite _________ 73

Imperial Bike: _ 75
Land Speeder: _ 165
LS Tornado: ___ 159
LS Typhoon: ___ 160
Rough Rider: __ 115

Robot: ___ 202
Sentinel: _ 86

Artillery Tractor: _ 37
Bridging Team: _____ 34
Chimera ____________ 67
Chimedon __________ 132
Chimerax __________ 111
Chimerro __________ 118
Demolisher: _______ 105
Destroyer: _________ 89
Hellhound: _________ 89
Hydra: ____________ 147
Leman Russ: _______ 111
LR Conquerer: _____ 113
LR Executioner: ___ 129
LR Exterminator: __ 114
LR Vanquisher: ____ 135
Predator: __________ 87
Sabre: _____________ 61
Scorpion AA: _______ 34
Thunderer: ________ 108
Vindicator: ________ 84

Mole Mortar: _ 59
Rapier: ______ 26
Tarantula: __ 101
Thudd Gun: ___ 53

Basilisk: __________ 320
Bombard: ___________ 508
Deathstrike: varies, choose 3
_Barrage each: ______ 28
_Harpoon each: ______ 19
_Warp Missile each: _ 28
Griffon: ___________ 114
Manticore: _________ 129
Medusa: _____________ 97
Whirlwind: __________ 89

Lightning Attack: ___ 694
Lightning Strike: ___ 442
Marauder Bomber: ____ 403
Marauder Destroyer: _ 468
Thunderbolt: ________ 497
Valkyrie ____________ 330
Vulture: ____________ 248

Baneblade: ___ 188
Shadowsword: _ 224
Stormblade: __ 176
Stormhammer: _ 227
Stormsword: __ 187

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OP updated for current formula.

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Magnus and others,
I just thought I would provide some feedback by comparing costs of a list I might have run under gold. In no way is it an optimal list, it is just typical of something I might throw together for a quick game.
Unit type................Gold..Tweak3
co1...mech tac co.....650.....396
co2...assault co........300.....326
s1.....heavy inf ptn...200.......53
s2.....mole mtrs.......100.......59
s3.....mole mtrs.......100.......59
s4.....rough riders....200......115
s5.....sentinels.........150.......86
s6.....hydras............300......147
s7.....thunderbolts....250......497
s8.....thunderbolts....250......497
sp.....reaver.............500......791
total......................3000....3026

So when all is said and done, the total is pretty similar. I wasn't sure it would be in a small list like this. Big discounts from most units are offset by big increases on the flyers and the titan.
Note that the reaver is priced using 3.0 so will be a bit less under 3.1.

The lack of heavy artillery probably also helps to keep things balanced. I'm not 100% sure the barrage pricing is right, but want to look into it more and provide some more meaningful feedback than "ooh, that seems a bit high."

But overall I think things are looking ok. The flyers are more expensive and the flak is cheaper, which I think needed to happen!
Nice work.

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Wonderful, glad to see an analysis like this one.

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Hi!

Indeed! My thanks Matty_C.

Primarch

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OP updated for adjustments to template weapons.

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Ratlings. 280 points. Too many 20 point modifiers on the poor little guys (infiltrate, stealth and sniper = 60 points). Do you think there is a case for the special rule adjustments to be factors rather than one off costs.

This is an extreme example, but possibly not the only one.

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Hi!

I noticed these as well. I am waiting for the formula to evolve further before tackling these fringe cases.

Primarch

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Oh, definitely, yes. SA costings are going to need some serious work at some point. Not just now, but they are on the list. On the other hand, if I get much more bored with working on the Hit Location stuff (I think I have some workable numbers, I just have to do the actual math and I just haven't been in the mood), I just may start looking into something else.

Making some of the miscellaneous SA into modifiers to the cost of the entire model is a good idea. At least, potentially a good idea. If not the whole model, I'm sure some of them could be changed to modify other attributes. I pulled out all the ones that were obvious to me at the time, but I could have overlooked a couple.

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OP updated for a few minor errors in Transport costs. Apparently, I forgot that Praetorians do not double move on charge and did not apply the modifier for that. It's fixed now, and I'll be updating a few other lists shortly.

Also took the opportunity to simplify the post to just have V0.325 values, as everyone who has commented prefers those.

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