MagnusIlluminus wrote:
I guess I missed that part of the IG discussion.
As far as I can tell, Legion of the Damned should not have the option for transports at all as they Teleport into the battle, and that has always been described as 'replaces transports'. Thus their formation size would not have to change. Them being the odd formation with a different size would also reinforce them as being 'outside' the normal army structure.
As to normal Terminators, I'm of mixed feelings as to whether their formation size should change or not. There are good reasons for having both sizes, so perhaps that is what should be done. Have both sizes. That is, have one formation be standard (probably the full strength one) and have the other be an optional formation for those players who want to represent a Chapter of the other strength. Give people options.
I really feel that the size of a Grey Knights formation should not change. They are supposed to be rare and not often seen units (at least in Epic), and making them 6 squads per would increase the cost to 600 which is more than some Titans, so nearly nobody would choose them at all. Admittedly, that would thus make them rarer, but for the wrong reasons.
Alternatively, we could get rid of the Grey Knights formation entirely and instead have them as an add-on option for Inquisitor and Ordo-Malleus Inquisitor formations on a squad by squad basis. That is, for 100 points you'd add 1 Grey Knight squad which adds one to the break point and the VP.
In my view, the VP of a formation should be dependent only on the final cost of that formation.
You might want to avoid using values other than 50 or 100 for final costs, as that recently caused a bit of a stir about Titan Weapons.
Hi!
To build upon one of your points, I think an "Inquisitorial" army list is in order. There are enough newer things out there to justify one. I believe Dwarf Supreme made one for E:A that I can grab some ideas from.
On such a list we could define grey knight detachment size, composition and equipment available.
I also agree with Magnus to leave the points cost to the standard 50 and 100 rounding off. I find the 25 points or other points cost too fiddly.
I'd rather all unit cost be revised than go the 25 point route.
This begs the question now. Since we will have one "traditional" ruleset that will never change in net epic gold and this prospective "platinum" version will be getting all these changes....
...should we bite the bullet and make a comprehensive points cost formula/list?
You all know where I stand of this, so what is your opinion?
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