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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:27 am 
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Can't wait for these! Any chance of hooded ogre type mutants?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:56 am 
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Why tank you :)

I think I'm going to bust the Cultists into 3 units:

Cultists - rifle and shotgun armed crazies
Zealots - Pistols and close combat weaponry
Destroyers - Heavy weaponry

They'll also be getting possessed mutants, large abominations, man-beasts, demons, all kinds of goodies.

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Shall I just hand over my wage now or later?!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:39 am 
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The cultists are GREAT. Perfect. Love them so much.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:43 am 
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On a bit of a roll tonight - what do you guys think?

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I figure all sorts of armies could use hooded zealots! :)



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deacon wrote:
Why tank you :)

I think I'm going to bust the Cultists into 3 units:

Cultists - rifle and shotgun armed crazies
Zealots - Pistols and close combat weaponry
Destroyers - Heavy weaponry

They'll also be getting possessed mutants, large abominations, man-beasts, demons, all kinds of goodies.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 7:48 am 
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Great job as usual.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:57 am 
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And I thought your other bits were amazing, these just blow them out of the water :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:12 am 
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deacon wrote:
Boom! Got the squad done!

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This got posted today on the 'Dirtside 2 and other 6mm SF Wargames' Facebook page, with a result; Five likes, then a query "Why hasn't GW sued these out of existence yet?"

I responded with my usual comments to fanboys and interested parties, mentioning the "Disney vs. The Sky Pirates" ruling and of course the estate of Walter M Miller and GW itself ( You know, when GW pinched a piece from a Hugo-winning novel for their background fluff), the Space Marine case and the loss against GrimDarkBits and others on Shapeways.

His response was "Interesting. Thank you." Sounded to me like the carefully worded response of a wannabe IP Lawyer, hoping to make a name for himself with GW.

I trust nothing will come of it, because as I also said, the creators of Art deco discovered you can't copyright a style.

Love these sculpts myself, though :)


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Looks goodevil! Will buy complete army (though will wait for (pre-order) availability from an EU agent).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:55 pm 
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I'm glad everyone seems to be pleased with them!

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This got posted today on the 'Dirtside 2 and other 6mm SF Wargames' Facebook page, with a result; Five likes, then a query "Why hasn't GW sued these out of existence yet?"

I responded with my usual comments to fanboys and interested parties, mentioning the "Disney vs. The Sky Pirates" ruling and of course the estate of Walter M Miller and GW itself ( You know, when GW pinched a piece from a Hugo-winning novel for their background fluff), the Space Marine case and the loss against GrimDarkBits and others on Shapeways.

His response was "Interesting. Thank you." Sounded to me like the carefully worded response of a wannabe IP Lawyer, hoping to make a name for himself with GW.

I trust nothing will come of it, because as I also said, the creators of Art deco discovered you can't copyright a style.

Love these sculpts myself, though :)


Thanks dude - I saw that.

Not sure you can copywright a bare-breasted hooded woman with a sword...or mechs, hover tanks, chicks in armor, etc.

Here's the the thing - my goal has always been to provide nice proxies to the community - to use in whatever game they wish. I don't sit down and say "I want to copy this design" I simply sit down with a basic idea - "Huge Mecha with XYZ type weapons" and then I go. I don't have any image on my screen I'm working from - and it helps keep my designs admittedly generic while filling a specific battlefield role.

I think the big problem for GW zealots is that while the fluff and models are indeed amazing - all the lines are basically quite generic ideas. And its done for good reason - mass appeal. But you cant own the idea of armored space soldiers, good and bad elves, metal skeletons, Anime mecha, etc.

If you compare my stuff side by side to any existing model, you'll see how different they really are.

Now all that said - If I ever get a knock on the door from some lawyer - that's it boys. I don't make anywhere near enough with this to put up a fight. But - I'm sure all the lawyers know this, and so far, no letters. I can only assume they agree with the above sentiments... Not to mention there's plenty of other people out there making perfect copies of their stuff in this scale. The day they get sued is the day I start to worry.

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Hell, there are more companies making stuff in 28mm these days that are blatant copies.
Not to mention the fact that GW aren't in the 6mm market anymore and Deacon is supporting his lines with backgrounds.


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No just call Winston and Strawn and see if they'd like to rub GWs nose in the dirt again. :)

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