(zap123 @ Apr. 14 2007,10:02)
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Been going through the Tyranid list lately and have noted a couple of oddities that seem to have arisen because the Bugz came out after most of the other stuff. OK, first the question. Tyranids vs. Squats.
A Squat company has a break point of 75%, and because of this gives up 33% extra VPs when broken. This is all cool. However, a Tyranid player gets double the VPs if he wipes out a unit.....so against Squats the Tyranid player who wipes out a 750 point Warrior Brotherhood would get 20 Victory points. This is broken IMO....there's no logical justification for the "double bonus". Has this one come up before? Was there ever a fix?
Secondly a suggestion. I've noted that at least one of the Tyranid mega weapons is noted as causing D6 wounds, but none of the other races BIG guns cause multiple wounds IIRC. Seems odd that a Hive Queen can be hit by a Hellfury Cannon/Plasma Destructor/Nova Cannon shot, take one wound and remain standing. I thought perhaps there be a standard rule that "a multi-wound creature suffers one additional wound for each point the TSM of the targetting weapon exceeds -3" or something like that.
A Squat company has a break point of 75%, and because of this gives up 33% extra VPs when broken. This is all cool. However, a Tyranid player gets double the VPs if he wipes out a unit.....so against Squats the Tyranid player who wipes out a 750 point Warrior Brotherhood would get 20 Victory points. This is broken IMO....there's no logical justification for the "double bonus". Has this one come up before? Was there ever a fix?
Secondly a suggestion. I've noted that at least one of the Tyranid mega weapons is noted as causing D6 wounds, but none of the other races BIG guns cause multiple wounds IIRC. Seems odd that a Hive Queen can be hit by a Hellfury Cannon/Plasma Destructor/Nova Cannon shot, take one wound and remain standing. I thought perhaps there be a standard rule that "a multi-wound creature suffers one additional wound for each point the TSM of the targetting weapon exceeds -3" or something like that.
Hi!
Wow! That is a very good pick up!
I'm embarrassed that I did not see it myself....
I dont think anyone has ever realized this. The fix would be to give double VP according to the standard VP formula of 1 VP per 100 points. In the Tyranids case 2 VP per 100 points. In your example the award would be 15, not twenty.
Your second point is also extremely good. Would one wound per -1 TSm be too much? I think it would be okay since it encourages using mught weapons to kill such multi-wound beasts.
Tihoughts?
You are correct when regarding Tyranids, as the last list of the SM2 era, has big holes in it.
It is time to fill those holes....
Primarch
