I doubt that Orks would use Red, Green, and Blue. Red would probably be used as "Red wunz go fasta!" and would thus be for Charge orders. Green might not be used as all Orks are green, and that would be confusing. Still, these are Orks wherein all are latent psychics, so it might be fine for Advance orders. First Fire orders would probably use Yellow, as that is the clan color for Bad Moonz (whose instinctive behavior is to FF), so they'd basically be telling the formation to "act like a Bad Moonz ork".

Just my 2 farthings.

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That seems fair enough and I have no argument with any of that. I kind of thought the same thing but didn't want to confuse as the order counters - including the square ones that were in Codex Titanicus (I think) - still have red for FF, green for Advance, blue for Charge.

From a rules perspective, does my suggestion sound reasonable?

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The colors of the counters are for the humans playing the game. Discussion on "what color would an ork use" are asinine
Fundamentally your idea has serious merit Bissler!

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Actually, the discussion of what color an Ork would use is entirely on topic, if fluff based rather than rules based. What is "asinine" is that annoying animated thing you use for a portrait.

Just to be clear, I was only thinking from a fluff, 'in-game' perspective. I was NOT proposing changing the colors of anyone's order counters. I agree that the colors of the order counters are for the benefit of the people playing the game.

The proposed increase of command radius around a Gargant sounds like it could be feasible, especially with the side effect of revealed orders. I would suggest that it be specifically limited to Command Gargants (though that seemed to be the point anyway) as if it isn't so mentioned, someone will try to use the rule for normal Orks. Of course, it will need play testing to know for sure that it's not broken, but it sounds good in theory.

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Yes because the fluff around what mechanism a fictional race of fungoid aliens would use to signal orders to each other has complete bearing on a discussion on rules mechanics in an epic game system.

I (we all?) get your love of the fluff. In fact I applaud it-it's deep and broad in the universe we all know and love. It's just not cogent to the point of the discussion here, mate. However in the spirit of reconciliation I will freely admit that I obviously mistook your point being that from the "fluff perspective" the order counters should use "proper ork" colors. So fair enough there.


Aye it probably is.

Anyways, getting back onto topic (personal "conversations" about my avatar can be taken offline-you don't need to take a personal snarky tone with everyone that happens disagrees with you on the board, k? ), anyone have thoughts on Gordon's idea here? I think MI is spot on with this=>

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OOooooooooooooo! Handbags at dawn and all that...

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Ha! Love it! And since we've totally derailed this topic, albeit one you started so lead the way, I'll raise you some nightmare fuel

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I can't compete with that. That's the visual equivalent of a straight flush. Maybe, just maybe, I'll be able to stop watching it and sleep at some point tonight.

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If you had been just disagreeing with me, that would have been fine, but instead you decided that it was necessary to call me names and say that my post was useless, pointless, and unwanted. I don't react well to that. Nor should I have to.

I realize now that, in your own way, you were just stating your opinion, which you have the right to do. I also have the right to state my opinion. It seemed to me from the way you phrased your post that you were saying that I did not have the right to state my opinion. That is intolerable.

Being that the only reason that this new rule is being proposed IS because of fluff concerns (the entire Ork command structure rules are the way they are because of the Ork fluff), thereby discussions of what colors they would or would not use seemed warranted to me. Perhaps you disagree. That's fine if you do, but then just don't participate in that part of the conversation. It is not fine if you attempt to disallow anyone from stating their view.

Frankly, on further consideration, I doubt they would use semaphore at all, as that requires logical thinking and paying attention for a sustained period of time, neither of which Orks are typically good at. The exact method of communication really doesn't matter all that much at this scale anyway, and would likely vary from Mekboy to Mekboy in any event.

There is no way that I'd ever possibly meet with you offline for a "conversation" about your avatar, or any other topic, and if you continue to make veiled threats against my person I'll be forced to report you. Please stop.

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Speaking from the sidelines as the blundering cause of this argument with my rule suggestion, I don't think there was any veiled threat from Jimmy. Assuming it was this that annoyed you;



I think he only meant that if you wanted to have a conversation about his avatar you could discuss this by private message rather than in this very public forum. I don't think there was any intention there to actually meet you in the "real" world and remonstrate with you (verbally or physically).

I also don't see any evidence of your claim of "name-calling". There's a world of difference between stating that a person's opinion on a particular subject is "asinine" rather than the person being asinine.

Anyway, that's just my assesment, I'd rather hoped that my handbags pic would have served to take the heat out of this disagreement.

I reckon I'm beyond caring about the semaphore rule now!

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i think they should use a squigg...just like good old bagpipes ...a different sounding squigg for different actions.....but then do red squiggs represent advance...yellow represent fire......

....who knows....only an Ork would know!!.....

<runs for cover>.

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Getting this thread back on track...

I've been thinking about long range Ork support, such as the Braincrusha, Pulsa Rokkits and Shokk Attack Gun. Given that I want these deployed up the back of the board to keep them out of range of standard enemy weaponry, I've came up with the solution of attatching them to the Deathskulls Mob; I intend the mob to sit at the back of the board (hopefully defending an objective) and essentially hide to starve the opponent of VPs if he wipes out the rest of my forces.

Does this seem like a sound tactic? I don't really see what else you could do with the Rokkits/Gun unless you do something like this, they have to be on FF orders and given that you can't buy seperate Nobz to break off from a mob and command them, options seem limited. I suppose there is always buying a Warboss. Hmm....

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Quick question: The Ork dreadnoughts that came with in one of the old Ork boxes with mixed plastic goodness... which type of Dreads are they? Is it a stretch to use 'em as Onslaughter Dreadnoughts in a game?

Also, I'd still very much welcome feedback about my tactics as outlined in the previous post if anyone can help!

Cheers!

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I've decided to give the Deathskulls a try as a long-range support clan and I'm going to use the plastic Dreads as Onslaughters.

My attention is beginning to turn to the Snakebites now... What really has me scratching my head are the Boarboyz attached the main mob. What is the purpose of that and how are you supposed to play them?

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Bump.

Still wondering if anyone has any tips about the Boarboyz attached to the Snakebites Mob. It seems absurd that they are linked into the mob when they can move at twice the speed.

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