(zap123 @ May 02 2007,23:09)

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Knights aren't Superheavies. ?They are in the same pinning class, but dont 'count as'.

Knights don't need a template. ?They are not much bigger than vehicles and only have 1 crewman.

Mechanic affects "Vehicle, Superheavy and Walker class" (core rules), so no, a Techmarine cannot repair Knights.

(zap123 @ May 02 2007,23:09)

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Knights aren't Superheavies. ?They are in the same pinning class, but dont 'count as'.

Knights don't need a template. ?They are not much bigger than vehicles and only have 1 crewman.

Mechanic affects "Vehicle, Superheavy and Walker class" (core rules), so no, a Techmarine cannot repair Knights.

(darkangel @ May 03 2007,12:57)

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ok, but the knights are so expensive like super heavies, 3 in a company, same strong weapons and therfore i think they should have the super heavies table too.

other question.
i haveread that floaters and flies can only be shoot from infantrie and aa on first fire..is that right?

if it is so, it would mean, that i could have 5 titans fithing against 3 overloards and the titan could not destroy them...do you think this makes sense?

(zap123 @ May 03 2007,14:14)

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Knights have shields already....they dont need the Superheavy table as well...that would be busted.

Yup, Floaters can only be targetted by Infantry and AA. ?I will admit that I'm not sure why Floaters get this protection. ?However, that's why all the Titan/Gargants have AA weapon options these days.

(darkangel @ May 03 2007,13:15)

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another question:

can the missles of the deathstrike tactical missle launcher change their direction turn by turn? and can you tell me a weapon which could shoot at a missle which a god chance? because -2 to hit and only aa is very rar!

(darkangel @ May 03 2007,15:51)

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wait a minute..the imperial titans have only one AA wapon and this is the cerberus AA gun with to hit with 5+ two attack dice and tsm -1...not a great deal when firing at a overloard...so i think this rule is much to heavy!

suggestion:
i would say that it is enough that you must put +25 cm to your shoot when firing at a floater and you must have first fire too...i would say that a AA gun only ignore that +25 cm rule so that is the advantage of an AA gun. everyone can fire at a floater with firt fire and add +25 cm of the distance.

hey and by the way i have 12 thunderhawks...i think my friends would be very helpless fighting against me and although it would be a great advantage of my i think this floater rule is unfair at all!

(Dwarf Supreme @ May 03 2007,16:50)

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I agree that more things should be able to target floaters, but I'm not sure everything should be able to. I really can't see a Land Raider, for example, being able to elevate its lascannons sufficiently to be able to fire at something overhead.

I do agree that the 25cm penalty should apply to everyone. Afterall, [Scottish accent] you can't change the laws of physics.[/Socttish accent] ?

(zap123 @ May 03 2007,16:34)

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Well, it is a combined arms game. ?If you take an army of 5 titans you get what you deserve . ?The Cerberus doesn't suck for only 40 points, and you can always take Hydras....3 of them are going to make a mess of an Overlord if it strolls into range.

My preference would also be that anything should be able to target a Floater (with the 25cm range penalty if it is at high altitude). ?I dont see any reason why AA should ignore the 25cms penalty though.

(darkangel @ May 03 2007,20:40)

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yes both of you were right. the logical sense is missing when a land raider could fire overhead...my solution was not the best but we are all in common that there have to be some changes for floaters and fliers, right? fact is that only AA and first fire is to hard!

(darkangel @ May 03 2007,20:54)

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and another thing i can not understand...i am standing on the battlefielf face to face with my enemy...and then suddenly there are some drop pods fallen from the sky...and i do not suffer the -1 for snap fire?? but i do when a flier comes the direct way to me? whre is the logical sense? at least the normal -1 to hit for snap fire should apply for shooting drop pods...there are enough reasons for this.

(zap123 @ May 04 2007,07:25)

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Drop Pods are a descending target, not a crossing one. ?For much of their trajectory it would be similar to firing at a stationery target, so they are easier to hit (well, for direct fire weapons anyway). ?

More importantly, it also makes them more balanced in game play. ?It would be a bad, bad, bad idea to change them (unless you are a 'Nid player...then it would be REAL good).