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primarch

Post subject: NetEpic and Tau etc.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:42 pm

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Quote (Mojarn Piett @ 14 2005 June,06:23)

The Tau would be another Slann experiment in "fast evolution". How to produce a sentient space faring race in thousands not millions of years. They would be the new favored race of the slann replacing the Eldar.

Either great minds think alike or you remembered my suggestion from the ancient times when we last tried to unify the background. ?

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Probably. So many things get thrown my way I have trouble remembering when and where I saw them.

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Post subject: NetEpic and Tau etc.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:45 pm

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Quote (Dwarf Supreme @ 14 2005 June,17:35)

Quote (primarch @ 14 2005 June,03:42)

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Actually the problem has less to do than revising the fluff and more with what the netepic fans will permit anyone to "change". I'm in the camp to ditch GW fluff and basically re-write the whole thing to suit our needs. There will be of course certain consistency (there will be an Emperor, Hours Heresy, major things like that), but much minutea would be redone.

Squats for example would be an offshoot human races, but since they evolved way back in the age of strife would have actual understanding of technology and practice the scientific method. Very Guild oriented. No tyrnanids would have magically "wiped them out".

The Tau would be another Slann experiment in "fast evolution". How to produce a sentient space faring race in thousands not millions of years. They would be the new favored race of the slann replacing the Eldar.

Perhaps even advancing the timeline, the emperor dies and the aftermath.

I certainly find the idea of rewriting fluff to make it consistent very appealing. This kind of goes along with the other thread on "what we would change." Since NetEpic is based on SM2, but has already deviated from GW's fluff (e.g Squats), I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be possible to to do a major rewrite as long as major events/themes are maintained. Personally, I feel that it is more important that NetEpic is consistent with itself, rather than the myriad of GW's fluff, some of which contradicts itself or is downright silly.

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Perhaps the time is ripe for such a move. I remember it wasnt last time it was tried. Things change though and even a list with so many "old schoolers" can forge a new path.

I wonder if its time to open up this can of worms.... :;):

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Post subject: NetEpic and Tau etc.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:46 am

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Quote (primarch @ 14 2005 June,14:45)

Perhaps the time is ripe for such a move. I remember it wasnt last time it was tried. Things change though and even a list with so many "old schoolers" can forge a new path.

I wonder if its time to open up this can of worms.... ? :;):

OPEN OPEN OPEN....

I think that the issues that need adjustment would not have to be so radical that someone would not recognise the background, just different enough to resolve some of these issues.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:30 am

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Quote (stormseer @ 14 2005 June,12:44)

The Emperor dying would be a little extreme perhaps- after all, without him there is no Astronomicon, and therfeore no space travel for humans not wanting to be possesed by Chaos! - A bit of a dampner on any possible continued Imperium.... ? :blues:

I dunno - there is a train of thought that the Emperor will be reincarnated when he finally dies - see the Illuminati thread.

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Bear in mind that originally on Earth there was loads of shamen who reincarnated when they died, but individually they didn't have the power to survive the rising power of the Chaos gods, so with ever increasing frequency there souls were being swallowed before they could reincarnate. To combat this they all merged, forming one perfect being, *cough* The Emperor *cough* who would be able to survive Chaos using there combined strength.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:32 am

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Point being that by keeping the Emperors life on a thread they are in more danger than if he died, reincarnated and came back - course there would be another civil war. But with the power of the Emperor and no evil Primarchs to combat him? The Imperium would be able be win a few wars for once.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:32 pm

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More interesting still: Make the Emperor die and NOPT reincarnate himself, but to go to the warp (oncre free of mortal and physical constraints), take his Holy Hand of Slapping and start a kung fu fight with the chaos gods on the warp. So, it would truly become a god: an entity of the warp.

The iluminati would have to find a way to allow space travel [maybe the emperor dwelling in the warp would make warp travel much safer and accurate, even if slower than now (lack of astronomicon)?] but appart from that things can get really interesting. Warp travel is the only real thing that would be messed up unless directly addressed.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:56 pm

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Quote (dafrca @ 15 2005 June,06:46)

Quote (primarch @ 14 2005 June,14:45)

OPEN OPEN OPEN.... ?

I think that the issues that need adjustment would not have to be so radical that someone would not recognise the background, just different enough to resolve some of these issues.

dafrca

I'm with Dafrca; I don't think the adjustments would be all that radical and I don't think we need to look at it as opening a can of worms. I'll be the first to admit that I often resist change, but not when it's a change for the better. I definitely believe that it would be worth the effort to fix the inconsistencies and nonsense that exists in the current fluff.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:58 pm

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Hi!

On another note, should we do that here or on the NetEpic list.

I'm inclined to do it here..... :;):

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:47 pm

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It might be worth checking out the NetEPIC timeline - it at least gives us something to work with...

Also the Horus Heresy fiction I have been working on (in the last 10 issues of incoming, exluding #21) expands and neatens up the edges of the fluff.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:48 pm

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Article download page - see the fiction section for the NetEPIC timeline.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:22 pm

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Quote (netepic @ 15 2005 June,17:47)

Also the Horus Heresy fiction I have been working on (in the last 10 issues of incoming, exluding #21) expands and neatens up the edges of the fluff.

That's the solution in fact - use Heresy background.
The Inqs were not yet in place (or existed in a different form, if you like them - as I do).
The Ad Mech were not much better - nut they had had less time to forget everything!
You get massive legions of SMs.
You get humorous orks (well, in the GW real life timeline, if not the 40K one!)

And no Tau or Necrons - well, they exist, I guesss, but the Tau are still aggressive and the Necrons less - ah - intrusive (think Ad Mech machine god).
The Nids are far away, but approaching... and ahead of them - GS cults!

WHat more could anyone want?

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:50 pm

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well, I think that the netepic is richer in background and races than epic GW. We can adjust the time line and can make a new fluff.

we can return to the darkest days ( civil war in imperium) this will be a good door for the chaos hordes (maybe)
we can create new races, new sp chapter, new demons , we have a new universe to explore.
We can put a breakline and then we can create the Netepic fluff.
Maybe with the death of emperor in the 42th millenium (after a surprise chaos attack with the help of traitor ultramarines chapter) the adeptus ?militaris and ministrorum take the power and declare the new republic of the human race, adeptus astartes with his loyalty to emperor initiate a war actions agains the republic. The traitors ultramarines has been worked in a new evolution human project and with the death of emperor they have freeway to investigate it and search in the chaos side for a new resources.

Maybe it's a little hard to read ( my english is bad bad bad sorry) but it's a little idea about how big can be the change of "official" fluff

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:19 pm

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I don't think I would advocate THAT much change. I think that would be too far away from "accepted" fluff.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:33 pm

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Yes of course !! it's a BIG change it's only an example.
But now netepic is better system than EA (Gw) we have very very good 6mm system, let' go and we must write or compile a better background. I think that we have the system now we want background!!

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:45 pm

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Quote (bans @ 15 2005 June,21:33)

Yes of course !! ?it's a BIG change it's only an example.
But now netepic is better system than EA (Gw) we have very very good 6mm system, let' go and we must write or compile a better background. ? I think that we have the system now we want background!!

Good point, bans. By the way, welcome!

I'm sure others will agree that your English is okay. You know far more English than I know Spanish.

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