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An other imperial fleet: 1500
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Author:  Xavi [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:01 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Hello there!

Well, I went to get my starting fleet today at the loal GW store. I ended up being silly and I did spend more than I wanted to (well, not really, but you know that Emperor was calling my name...). So that is what has happened. I ened up taking an Emperor BB as well as what I have planned to get. Gorgeous model :)

So, my final buy list ended up being as follows:

- Emperor/Oberon BB
- 2 cruiser boxed sets
- Sword escorts blister
- Cobra escorts blister
- Firestorm escorts blister

Now, that adds up for a 1500 fleet if yu take it all and add a Nova cannon for one of the lunars and a 50 point admiral to the mix.

My doubtr is if I should take shark boats for the emperor or get an other NC for an other of the lunars. Shame I cant take it for the gothic, heh. That would be *THE* ship for me ;)

I want to test NC and attack craft at a significant rate, so this is why I a planning to have 1-2 NC and the emperor over the Oberon. I like the oberon, but 4 launch bays is not something that can show you if attack craft are really worth it; more of a support role, you know.

I have 3 possible configurations for the fleet givcen those premises (at least 1 NC, emperor over oberon):

OPTION A (1485)

- Fleet Admiral
- Emperor with Shark Assault Boats

- Lunar
- Lunar (squadroned with the previous one)
- Gothic
- Lunar with NC

- 3 swords
- 3 firestorms
- 4 Cobras


OPTION B:

- Fleet Admiral
- Emperor (sharks)

- Lunar (squadroned)
- Lunar (squadroned)
- Gothic
- Tyrant (WB= 45/10, Nova cannon)

- 3 swords
- 3 firestorms
- 4 Cobras



OPTION C (1500)

- Fleet Admiral
- Emperor

- Lunar
- Lunar with NC
- Lunar with NC
- Gothic

- 3 swords
- 3 firestorms
- 4 Cobras


OPTION D (1500)
- Fleet Admiral
- Emperor

- Gothic
- Gothic
- Tyrant (NC and WB 45/10)
- Tyrant (NC and WB 45/10)

- 3 swords
- 3 firestorms
- 3 Cobras


So, what's your opinion here? I am sure the first thing you will shout at me is that I am low in escorts (2:1 relation to cruisers) but apart from that as you can see the thing is mainly about the configuration of the 4 cruisers I have. I alread have spent too much for my wallet to be happy today, so the question of taking dauntless or any of its variants is out of question :( Any thought on what configuration I should get there?

Thx in advance :)

Cheers,

Xavi
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:52 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Firstly, congrats on getting a fleet!!!

Shame you ran out of money for your dauntless, but who can resist an Emporer!  :blues:

The difference between the lists is a hard one to advise on.  I think I'd go for B.  It seems very flexible, with a bit of everything.

As everyone has said, the best thing to do is blue-tac the weapon bays, so you can alter the configuration.  Then you can play all the lists, and choose which suits you/is the most successful.
Author:  Xavi [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:48 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Quote (Shadow Hunter @ 20 2003 Oct.,09:52)
The difference between the lists is a hard one to advise on. ?I think I'd go for B. ?It seems very flexible, with a bit of everything.

As everyone has said, the best thing to do is blue-tac the weapon bays, so you can alter the configuration. ?Then you can play all the lists, and choose which suits you/is the most successful.

Hya! I will try to make a later post about the diferences in the lists. Basically I did some reasoning in my mind about the diverse configs but didn't put it in the post. Woerking on that later.

About the blue tac, didn't know why I didn't though about doibng the same for regular cruisers... lol. Good advise in any case :)

Cheers,

Xavi
Author:  Chris [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
I would go for option B as well (What pts is that one...you havn't listed it!) With the others, don't overuse the Lunars, I know they are good, but too many could seem like overkill.

I have that problem with models as well, I tend to over indulge when I have the cash!

Cheers

Chris
Author:  Xavi [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Quote (Chris @ 20 2003 Oct.,14:50)
(..) don't overuse the Lunars, I know they are good, but too many could seem like overkill.

Err... how is that? I can hardly see how a completely average model can be overkill there. It is not that it is wrongly priced or anything like that, right? At least I don't see it that way...

Cheers,

Xavi
Author:  Chris [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Sorry Xavi, its just the way I pick fleets, I rarly ever double up on cruisers, unless they are Dauntless.

But option B looks good...go for it!

Cheers

Chris
Author:  Xavi [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
I see :) Well, I like the lunar and gothic cruisers a lot (models are gorgeous) and IMO the lunar is a great combo, specially when squadroned with an other lunar :). You could have the same reslt with squadroned gothic + dominator, but I prefer the lunars none the less, specially since the dominator has a default NC and the lunars don't so they can shot up a 12 strenght torp salvo... :) Also, fluffwise the lunars are as common as a ship can be in imperial fleets :)

Option B is exactly 1500 pts, BTW.

Commenting on reasons to select one or an other later.

QUESTION: Asking again ;) how do you distinguish a Dominator from an upgraded Tyrant?

Cheers,

Xavi
Author:  stormseer [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
..I agree, B is my favourite too- I dislike having too many of one ship in smaller fleets.... even though I now have four Lunars in my fleet (and soon more when a deal comes through.. :D )! I like how you've kept to the fluff Xvi- not overboard on attack craft.. good good... :;):

As for your 'distinguishing' question... well, there are no hard & fast rules, but I remember someone suggesting on the BFG list a while back putting the metal Vengeance weapon batteries on the Dominator...
Author:  Chris [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:40 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
So how big is your fleet Stormseer? And what is this deal you speak of...

I have 3000pts of Imperial, but only 2000pts is painted. But, like any true wargaming fan, I WANT MORE!!!!

Cheers

Chris
Author:  stormseer [ Mon Oct 20, 2003 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
..It stands at nearly 5000pts, and the deal.. well, a mate mentioned to me today when he saw an old picture of the FW Stormblade which I had in my user area at school that he had collected GW stuff a few years ago and especially BFG... the obvious question was "Do you want to sell any?" ...lol :D

..Anyway, he should tell me what he has tmrw... hopefully some good stuff!
Author:  Chris [ Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Perhaps you should buy it all and sell it on here  ???  You could sell or trade it for some good stuff.

Cheers

Chris
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Tue Oct 21, 2003 9:45 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
Well Xavi, it seems pretty unanimous for option B.  I'd still try removeable weapon bays though.


And as a small tip on your English (which is very good) another is all one word.  :)
Author:  Xavi [ Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:25 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
*Xavi takes out his Great Notebook of Doom and writes down "Another... one word"* Thx ;) And "good" isn't the word I would use for my English, but hey :p

Ok, option B then. I will still have those removable bays don't be affraid :) But since I live the lunar and Gothic model and plan on geting another (;)) boxed set for the imps in the future I will get the gothic and lunars fixed, even if the Emperor and tyrant will not be fixed yet

Task Force Andromeda:

- Fleet Admiral Fastus
- Echo of Eternity/Aegis Magna (Emperor with Shark boats)

- Pegasus (lunar)
- Aurora (lunar)
- Veritas (Tyrant)
- Justiciar/ Pride of Namos/ Achilleus/ Alastor / Tanatos  (Gothic)

- 24th Halo Squadron (Cobras)
- Stormriders (Swords)
- Purgators (Firestorms)


As you ca see the Gothic and Emperor do not have defined names yet but I am mixing options. Suggestions on the names? One of the options was to have an all-latin named force. Dunno if I managed to find good names for that, heh.

BTW: anyone has the slightest idea on who the hell is Alastor, or if he/she/it is someone or something? I came up with the name and I am sure I have read it around, but I have no idea on where or related to whom. Same for Achilleus.

EDIT: name changes. Fleet follows greek names now :)

TASK FORCE BELUS

Fleet Admiral: Lynceus

- Emperor: Heracles
- Lunars: Pegasus and Eos (the greek name for Aurora)
- Gothic: Tanatos (greek death god)
- Tyrant: Hyperion (fahter of Eos, a titan. Name means "He who goes before the sun")

- Swords: Argos Squadron
- Firestorms: Cerberus Squadron
- Cobras: Halo Squadron

Ok, ready to go :) Now a little bit of sperglue, blue tac and paint and there we go! :D

Cheers,

Xavi

Pink Floyd- Sorrow
Author:  Xavi [ Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
HA! Found it. Gonna love pantheon.org :D

Alastor is a demon. ?It means "Avenger" and is the greek demon that used to kick the poo out of fathers for sins they had done against their sons. He is also a badass git ;) Quite good for a gohic, even if it would be even betterfor an slaughter chaos ship. Given that I already decided to cal the Gothic T?natos I will guard that for my chaos fleet :)

I think that achilleus and achilles are the same dude, or a derivation of the Achilles name. Sounds good none the less :)

Cheers,

Xavi
Author:  Shadow Hunter [ Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  An other imperial fleet: 1500
I like the Alastor background.  Knowing things like that, make the names of ships even more interesting.  I think I'll visit that site and have a nose around.
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